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[Dec. 6th, 2004|10:44 pm]
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[music |Belle - Beauty & The Beast]

Why do people advertise "stocking stuffers" on tv, and in stores. What in the hell is wrong with people, little kids watch tv and come into stores. You don't ruin Santa for little kids you evil bastards.

[User Picture]From: gentlemaitresse
2004-12-29 05:05 pm (UTC)
Well, some of us don't "do" Santa. :-P

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2004-12-29 07:44 pm (UTC)
Yes but do you have small children?

It's about respect.
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[User Picture]From: gentlemaitresse
2004-12-30 04:52 am (UTC)
I have five children, ages 20 to 4. And I'm trying to think of how to put this mildly and kindly... but ... I have a difficult time respecting parents who would lie to their children. I think it's the parents who have a problem when a teacher (for example, from a recent case that actually happened) tries to teach children the difference between fact and fiction using a Santa storybook (she asked questions such as, "Can reindeer really fly?" "Do you think a fat man really comes down your chimney?") and the parents raise a stink about it and try to have her fired!

Now, if the parents feel that strongly about sheltering their children from reality and truth, they'd be better off homeschooling them, or at least putting them into a school that agrees with their methods. And maybe when you'd also have to shield them from television advertising. Or, as long as you're making stuff up, you could simply tell them that "some parents" don't allow Santa to come and they fill the stockings themselves. I'm sure if you can get a child to believe in Santa you can get him to believe almost anything.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2004-12-30 10:56 am (UTC)
Point taken. Just out of curiosity, how was the Santa issue addressed when you grew up? Were you told by your parents at an early age that there is no Santa Claus? I just want to know where you're coming from before I address this.
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[User Picture]From: gentlemaitresse
2004-12-30 11:08 am (UTC)
My parents insisted there was a Santa, and encouraged me to believe it for as long as possible. When I finally learned the truth I felt like I'd been gullible, like I'd been played for a fool.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2004-12-30 11:53 am (UTC)
So that's why you responded as you have for your children? I wonder if your experience with it had been different if you would have chosen a different route.

My family always taught me that Santa lives within each of our hearts and that's where the joy of Christmas truly resides.

I don't believe that allowing your children to believe in Santa is lying to them. I think that it is encouraging their imaginatons and allowing them to partake in one of the most beautiul memories of most peoples childhoods.

Did you not allow your children imaginary friends either?

I'm just curious.. I think there are so many things that are for children in this world that the few there are they should be allowed, and encouraged to embrace.
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[User Picture]From: gentlemaitresse
2004-12-30 11:58 am (UTC)
I have raised my children the way I have because I conscientiously look at each option and choose that which I think is best. I prefer to teach them the difference between fact and fiction.

My oldest daughter had an imaginary friend. That's different because it came from her own imagination, rather than someone else insisting that it exists. I neither encouraged nor discouraged it, and I strongly suspect that she knew at the time that it was pure fiction!

Furthermore, I think the idea that some guy is watching you all the time, then comes into your house in the middle of the night, is rather scary.

And I've known LOTS of people who had bad experiences with Santa. How do you know your child won't be one of them? Why risk it?

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2004-12-30 12:20 pm (UTC)
I think that children have to grow up too fast in this world as it is and it's nice to give them that one piece of fiction to believe in. It's not Santa himself that most people hold onto, it's what he stands for and represents. Goodness. Generosity.

Imagination is a beautiful thing that is squashed far too early in most of us, and it's very sad.

As far as the idea of a guy wathing you all the time and coming into your house in the middle of the night-- that's the way an adult sees it. Putting dark conontations with it.. That's now how a child sees the situation.

And what do you mean by bad experiences with Santa? if a child had a bad experience with Santa it's the parents fault for handing it wrong.. or the fault of some child who wasn't allowed to believe in the wonder of Christmas coming in to Kindergarten and smashing that last bit of childhood wonder for the rest of the children there.

It's sad.
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[User Picture]From: gentlemaitresse
2004-12-30 12:35 pm (UTC)
I have to disagree. On many counts.

Experts have actually identified a trend called extended childhood today. Twenty-somethings are still dependent on their parents. They aren't growing up and taking responsibility.

Furthermore, some children do not enjoy the Santa fantasy, and that's not necessarily because of the way the parents handled it. You can't really say for sure how each and every child views Santa. My parents never did anything to make him seem scary to me. And I wasn't exactly scared of him, I just felt like a fool when I found out the truth. I was also angry at my parents for lying to me.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2004-12-30 12:42 pm (UTC)
Well, you raise your kids the way you want too, and I'll raise mine the way I do. Santa was one of my best memories as a child. I look forward to sharing this with my kid, and I hope that media, and poor teachers, and children of those who don't believe in the wonder of Christmas won't ruin it for him.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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