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Guns don't kill people? [May. 14th, 2005|10:44 am]
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Congress's Government Accountability Office
reported in March that, mainly because of gun owners' privacy
rights, the FBI or state officials were unable to stop 47 of the 58
gun purchases by people who were on the FBI's own terrorist
"watch list" (during a nine-month period last year).

Discuss amongst ya selves.
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[User Picture]From: sparkyduck
2005-05-14 08:46 am (UTC)
of course guns don't kill people!
people with mustaches kill people
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-14 08:48 am (UTC)
Now, you can't blame EVERYTHING on Hitler!
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[User Picture]From: benneh_boy3
2005-05-14 08:51 am (UTC)
is it true that at some banks in the US, when you open an account they give you a gun?
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-14 08:52 am (UTC)
It IS true. I saw a documentary on it. They advertise it in the local paper.
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[User Picture]From: jebuell
2005-05-14 09:49 am (UTC)
Okay, as a gun owner myself (and have been since I got the shiny little guy for Christmas when I was 12, after I got my gun safety permit) I don't agree that people raised around guns are going to shoot people up. In fact, being raised around guns has made me more gun safety aware. I don't know a single person who's ever shot another person, and where I grew up *everyone* and their three year old toddler had a gun.

Things like Columbine and Red Lake happen because some parents don't pay enough attention to their children, and don't realize when things are going wrong, or do realize but don't try to help them.
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[User Picture]From: benneh_boy3
2005-05-14 09:58 am (UTC)
Do you mind if I ask what type of gun you own and why you have it?
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From: lostways
2005-05-14 10:50 am (UTC)
Well, i think that the FBI did the right thing for not just stoping these people from getting guns cuz really they only susspected terrorist... they not confirm yet... if they was and them fbi didn't stop them then thats a problem but since they are just susspected what's the problem? Fbi is doing their job it not like they can taking away your american rights to bare arms
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-14 10:53 am (UTC)
See... and that's the problem.. if these people ARE terrorists and they have arms, and kill 30 people with them, then what?

Why have guns at all?
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[User Picture]From: ananaminglus
2005-05-14 11:30 am (UTC)
your missing the point i think, i have as much a right to own a gun and even carry it with me to the grocery store as you have to talk about how it's disgusting on here

and yes, a little squirrel hunting is little interest in hunting, i don't take opening day of deer season off work, i don't spend $500 on a scope

but taking guns away is insane. i work for the government trying to help farmers, one way to help farmers is to hand em a gun and a box of bullets and say go get 'em. deer destroy countless amounts of corn and soybean crops out here. wouldn't you rather we shoot and eat the deer as opposed to baiting them with some sort of deer pesticide?? and let them rot

my family isn't all about killing deer either, my father in law on TWO ocasions has taken in a fawn thats mother was hit by a car. it lived in his house like a dog untill he found a sanctuary to take it

do you not eat meat? because that would shed more light on your seemingly anti-hunting policy

why pay way to much money for a beef steak at a store when i could spend a few cents and some time and feed my family a ton
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[User Picture]From: popsimon
2005-05-14 06:02 pm (UTC)
ffs. guns are wrong. simply because they kill so many people.

you pay so much for a beef steak due to your government's inability/unwillingness to regulate the meat processing industry..........

(yes, you do, seriously, do some research.)

i'm not a veggie btw.
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[User Picture]From: popsimon
2005-05-14 05:58 pm (UTC)
in the nicest possible way, im glad i live in a country where guns are generally illegal.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-14 10:25 pm (UTC)
I wish they were here, too.
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[User Picture]From: santiagodr_j
2005-05-14 10:59 pm (UTC)

I am red and blue

Well, I think it's a right for American Citizens to have firearms, but I think that should be void if you break certain laws, like BEING ON THE FBI's TERRORIST LIST. But we can't judge to harshly, we don't know all the facts, the FBI considers some peaceful protesters and political officials 'Terrorists', I know. I admit guns are horrible things that kill people, but lets face it, they are badass. I have shot many guns, from high caliber hunting rifles, revolver handguns, shotguns, and yet to be a machiene gun or SMG. I also admit, yes, some guns have no other purpose than to kill people, but I also believe in stricter laws regarding gun ownership, such as government regulated testing of individuals who wish to purchase firearms, and the stronger the weapon, the tougher the tests. Also, better border control and keeping an eye on domestic production, because many guns used in murders are not legally purchased.

well, that's my two cents.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-14 11:05 pm (UTC)

Re: I am red and blue

What's the interest in shooting a gun?

I guess I just don't understand, and I really am curious about why it's "badass"?
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[User Picture]From: duckfast
2005-05-14 11:50 pm (UTC)
thats just...pathetic.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-15 12:25 pm (UTC)
I agree.
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[User Picture]From: noblestride
2005-05-15 08:49 am (UTC)
Bleepin' privacy rights...we love them but we hate them.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-15 12:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the "Patriot Act" is not my favorite...
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[User Picture]From: ananaminglus
2005-05-16 06:31 am (UTC)
If Guns Kill people then:
pencils mis spell words
cars make people drive drunk
spoons made rosie o'donnel fat

NRA FOREVER
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-16 10:38 am (UTC)
Oh, darling, you and Charlton Heston were MADE for each other.

May you forever find peace in sucking each others small appendages.
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[User Picture]From: ananaminglus
2005-05-16 07:33 am (UTC)
http://www.ursenbach.net/govwatcher/articles/gunsvssafty.asp



According to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) in 2000, victimizations involving a firearm represented 8% of the 6.3 million violent crimes of rape and sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated and simple assault.
The FBI's Crime in the United States estimated that 66% of the 15,517 murders in 2000 were committed with firearms.
Less than 1% of serious nonfatal violent victimizations resulted from gunshot wounds.
According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -
a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%
During the offense that brought them to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun, and about 2%, a military-style semiautomatic gun.
On average, State inmates possessing a firearm received sentences of 18 years, while those without a weapon had an average sentence of 12 years.
Among prisoners carrying a firearm during their crime, 40% of State inmates and 56% of Federal inmates received a sentence enhancement because of the firearm.
A recent Justice Department study shows Americans own over 65 million Americans own roughly 225 million firearms.
As of 1995 there were over 240,000 machine guns registered with the BATF. About half are owned by civilians and half by police departments and other governmental agencies.
Since 1934, only one legally owned machine gun has ever been used in crime, and that was a murder committed by a law enforcement officer in 1988. [source: Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Guns Used in Crime and Targeting Guns: Firearms and Their Control, by Prof. Gary Kleck, 1997)
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[User Picture]From: popsimon
2005-05-16 10:12 am (UTC)
hmm.

try finding an impartial source and looking at the statistics from a subjective point of view?
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[User Picture]From: ananaminglus
2005-05-16 12:06 pm (UTC)
41,200 deaths related to motor vehicle accidents,
16,600 in falls at home and on the job,
9,400 from poisoning, in the same year,
4,100 from water in drowning,
3,700 due to fire or burns,
3,200 due to choking, and
900 from guns
Reflecting on these numbers, perhaps we should outlaw cars and ladders. Or, perhaps we should arrest people for almost drowning or choking.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-16 12:40 pm (UTC)
THose can't really be avoided, where if guns, which have no purpose but to cause suffering, or death to someone were outlawed, or better controlled, over 900 people wouldn't have died.

Are you going to give this up, or are you going to forever be like a gun that has shoved it's way up my anus?
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[User Picture]From: ananaminglus
2005-05-16 12:53 pm (UTC)
Unless another comment really intrigues my interst this will probably be my last comment.

the bottom line from where i stand is that if guns are made illegal...who will have fire arms...police, military, and criminals who get them off the black market.

that means regular citizens like you and me will be left defenseless when encountered with a situation where police and military aren't around. say...a serial murder breaks into my house and is in the process of raping and murdering my wife...would i call 911 and wait for the county mounty to take his sweet time to get out to my farm house? no

that is all and randomposting please don't kick me off your lj for right now because i really do enjoy it
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-16 12:54 pm (UTC)
I'm not kicking you off at this juncture.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-16 07:47 pm (UTC)
I'm sick of republican lies and bullshit being streamed into my journal, as such, I will be banning you as well. Buhbye.
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From: you_suck_mule
2005-05-17 05:47 am (UTC)
your a coward and when you can't get an answer off your google search you ban people


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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-05-17 09:42 am (UTC)
lol. You're so cute. ;)

I am nothing of the sort, but this is my journal and if I choose not to have a bunch of idiots spewing diarrhea, that is my choice.
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