Why am I not surprised that PETA's involved?
Yeah, they're irritating. I'm a vegetarian, but long ago realized that PETA does not represent me at all.
As with any well-meaning organization, PETA has its fringe that go overboard. Just like the loonie tunes in the NRA, the ACLU, or any of the others.
However, PETA is a good organization that simply stands up for animals who otherwise would have no vote. Just as anyone or any organization that stands up for what's right, I applaud them.
What Vick did is horrendous, and there is nothing that can be said to defend his actions. Period!
You aren't defending Vick, are you?
I don't agree with a lot of what PETA does. I' a vegetarian and animal rights activist and have been for over a decade but they go way overboard a lot. They have buses that go around different cities showing the atrocities of factory farms and vivisection, but I don't think that's appropriate. My son is a vegetarian too, and I would hate for any child to be subjected to those images. I don't think that level of radicalism generally helps a cause.
That said, Vick is scum. I'm glad he was caught and that this issue has been brought to the forefront of peoples minds.
Look at the shit the anti-abortionists do. It's far worse and far more graphic than anything PETA could ever dream of doing. What about the children who are forced to see that? I find those pathetic people who do that stuff to be revolting. However, I understand their passion and their right to do it.
Blanket statements like the one made above are asinine. The whole "it figures" mentality.
We should appreciate the fact that there are still people out there willing to stand up for what they believe in.
Would that person say the same thing about the NRA and their bizarre statements and deeds following something gun related? I wonder.
Vick is scum. Sad to say there are many people who believe what he did is no big deal. And without groups like PETA, what he did would likely have garnered little to no attention. It's because of PETA we have animal cruelty laws that actually mean something. Just 20 years ago, what he did would have been a crime that would not have been deemed an offense worthy of any jail time at all.
I'm glad there are still people out there who stand up for what they believe in. I stand up for what I believe in but those little trucks with images of abortions AND images of tortured animals are wrong.
It's disgusting, either way, and children shouldn't be subjected to seeing that.
And yeah, I think they would. That particular reader has never been anything but level headed.
PETA is a radical group. It turns a lot of people that would be sympathetic towards animal rights issues away. It really does. I've seen it happen time and time again. Radicalism rarely results in anything positive.
The Humane society is doing alot of the work you seem to be crediting PETA for.
All groups with good intentions have their radical fringe. PETA is certainly one of them. I think the ACLU is a great organization, but there's that fringe element. I support the NRA and their defense of the second amendment, but look at some of the loonie toons speaking for them. Hell, look at MADD. Great idea. Let's try to stop drunk driving. But man...those people went nutso!
Yes, the Humane Society has done a world of good, but it's the "squeaky wheel" of PETA that is responsible for animal cruelty laws getting passed.
That reader may be level-headed, but his comment was rather asinine. Then again, I've done broad stroke things myself. I just think a story like this would naturally bring PETA into the fold. It's silly to make the statement he did. That's my opinion.
As for "children shouldn't be subjected to" arguments...we live in the real world. We can't and perhaps shouldn't shield children from ugly things. Yes, we need to protect kids, but we can't get all crazy when people do this stuff.
There are some people out there who seem to live to be offended. Don't be one of them.
Don't tell me how to live. :)
I'm quite happy with my life, and in my life, any mother fucker who tries to subject my toddler to abortion or animal cruelty images, will feel the complete force of my wrath. I will do everything I can to destroy their lives.
Luckily for them, the times I've been subjected to these images my child has not been around, if he were, they would feel suffering beyond any animal or aborted fetus ever has. :)
We're really on the same page. I think people who do that stuff are idiots. The only people who see the positive in it are the whackos in the fringe like them. Normal people who may sympathize with their beliefs are repulsed by their methods.
I'm very happy and content with life. I don't allow these people to bother me much.
I never said that I was supporting Vick. But at the same time I don't believe that the things PETA does in the name of animal rights are the best course of action. If you don't agree, fair enough, but don't go automatically thinking that I'm a animal-abusing maniac because of it.
I posed my comment as a question to you, not a statement. I didn't accuse you of anything.
I don't give a god damn whether you're an animal lover or some whacko animal abusing maniac. I just found your comment attacking PETA rather senseless and silly. That's all.
I don't think Michael Vick would get a very warm welcome from fans if he does get reinstated to the NFL. Unfortunately, I think there are teams out there that would consider hiring him.
I certainly would never watch a game with him in it or buy anything to do with a team that would have anything to do with him.
I don't think there's any excuse for torturing animals. I'm no vegetarian, but I try to get meat from reputable sources, and I don't waste meat, because some animal died for it.
Exactly. Im sure there are teams that would hire him, and I think it would be a terrible thing to do. Argh.
And that's good. So many people don't even think about where there meat comes from, or waste it, and that always make sme really sad. I don't eat meat, but I get that most people still do, and I just wish that people would put more thought into it, like you do.
We hold our sports personalities in high regard here in the States. So much so, that unsavory characters such as Micheal Vick and O.J. Simpson get off with slaps on the wrists, even for varying degrees of murder.
When sports are hyped to that extreme, you know there is a problem. It's a societal one. Personally, I believe that sports figures should be held to the same standards as everyday people.
What can you say about professional athletes? If a person gets rich and famous through brute force, I'm not really going to be surprised if that churns out some seriously screwed up people.
I'm a big supporter of fairness in all things. If you're going to be a dick, do it to someone who can stick up for themselves.
And all cruelty aside, dog fights don't really even sound that interesting. Let the dogs fight the humans who are responsible for putting them in such a shitty situation! Then, not only do they have a chance to strike back, but you've got a far more entertaining game on your hands- human smarts against dog instincts. And teeth.
I don't know about you, but I'm always rooting for the bull to get the matador. But when two dogs fight each other, one just loses less than the other. And where's the fun in that?
Agreed entirely. I always cheer for the bull.
I'd love to see him Vick thrown into a pen of the creatures he used to abuse. I hope that will be his Hell.
And hanging a dog? Who does THAT? I mean, I can see how running a dogfighting business could bring in a lot of cash. But if your business involves electrocuting pitbulls, I don't want to see your customers.
2009-04-15 01:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much! (I actually just saw this.)