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Actors vote. Unless they sell that option. [Nov. 23rd, 2007|10:30 am]
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Most at NYU say their vote has a price
Two-thirds say they'll do it for a year's tuition. And for a few, even an iPod touch will do. 

That's what NYU students said they'd take in exchange for their right to vote in the next presidential election, a recent survey by an NYU journalism class found. 

Only 20 percent said they'd exchange their vote for an iPod touch.
But 66 percent said they'd forfeit their vote for a free ride to NYU. And half said they'd give up the right to vote forever for $1 million. 

But they also overwhelmingly lauded the importance of voting.
Ninety percent of the students who said they'd give up their vote for the money also said they consider voting "very important" or "somewhat important"; only 10 percent said it was "not important."
Also, 70.5 percent said they believe that one vote can make a difference — including 70 percent of the students who said they'd give up their vote for free tuition.
The class — "Foundations of Journalism," taught by journalism department chairwoman Brooke Kroeger — polled more than 3,000 undergraduates between Oct. 24 and 26 to assess student attitudes toward voting. 

"The part that I find amazing is that so many folks think one vote can make a difference,"  Sociology Department Chairman Dalton Conley said. He added, "If we take them at their word, then perhaps they really think votes matter, and that's why someone might pay a year's tuition to buy theirs." 

Sixty percent of the students who said they'd give up their vote for tuition also described their families' income as upper-middle or high. 

Their reasons for giving up their votes varied. 

"At the moment, no candidate who truly represents my political beliefs has a chance of winning a presidential election," one male junior studying film and television at the Tisch School of the Arts wrote on the survey. 

"It is very easy to convince myself that my vote is not essential," wrote a female CAS sophomore. "After all, I'm from New York, which will always be a blue state." 

Other students wrote that they were disgusted by the thought. 

"I would be reversing history — a lot of people fought so that every citizen could be enfranchised," said a female in her second year at the Stern School of Business. 

One CAS junior went even further, writing that "anyone who'd sell his lifelong right to vote should be deported."
( http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6892.html )
Would you give up your vote for anything? If so, what would it take?
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And women in film. Cool.
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[User Picture]From: mystik00769
2007-11-23 05:07 pm (UTC)
I would give up my right in exchange for financial security for me and my son forever. but, that'd be a LOT of money. ;)
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-23 05:09 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I would or not. The implications of people doing this are terrifying.
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[User Picture]From: maegical
2007-11-23 08:31 pm (UTC)

Returning a random post

This is a return post for commenting randomly on my livejournal. Thank you for the hug. My livejournal is no longer abandoned.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-23 09:34 pm (UTC)

Re: Returning a random post

Glad to hear it! =)
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[User Picture]From: ebourland
2007-11-23 09:12 pm (UTC)
That's pretty messed up.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-23 09:34 pm (UTC)
*nod* I thought so too.
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[User Picture]From: booniecat
2007-11-23 11:52 pm (UTC)

Frustrating!

I don't think I would sell my vote, regardless. Because if with a MAJOR promise - serious financial security for the rest of my days or otherwise - nothing could comfort me once I start thinking about what items would come up for vote in the next decade, or more. Because voting is just not limited to Presidential candidates...you vote on local ordances, city laws, school district policies, school board members, sherriff, representitives and senate memeber...And more.

Choosing not to participate in a particular vote session is one thing...personally, I did not participate in my last local vote for school board rep because I don't live in the area, don't have kids, and I try not to vote without have atleast an inkling of who - and what - I am voting on. However, not participating in vote and selling your vote are completely different topics.

What I don't understand are the people with the reasoning "Oh, well no presidential candidate representes my political beliefs, so I am not going to vote in this election." Whether a candidate is your ideal president or not, the fact is SOMEONE is going to be the next Leader of the Free World for at least 4 more years, whether they are your ideal candidate or not. Bush was not my ideal candidate in the last election, but I agreed with him on far more topics than I agreed with Kerry, so that is where my vote went. Because, in the end, you vote counts (show me where it doesn't in elections where the difference in winner and loser is 1-3%!)

Personally, I believe the written rule should be "If you don't vote, shut the hell up", because I hate listening to people complain about policy, the presidency and all the rest when THEY DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO VOTE. You don't vote, you have already pretty much said "Yeah, I don't care", so don't complain when things don't end up all sunshine and rainbows and matching your "ideal" view of politics.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 12:17 am (UTC)

Re: Frustrating!

Exactly. I HATE when someone lets one issue determine that they aren't going to vote. I think it's really negligent.
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[User Picture]From: troubleinchina
2007-11-24 01:45 am (UTC)
I would, of course, give up my right to vote (and yours, too!) to become Ultimate Ruler of the Whole World, where My Word Was Law.

See, no voting required!
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 03:07 am (UTC)
:P
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 03:46 am (UTC)
Haha! That's so cooL! Talk about small world, huh? ;)

And exactly. It's insanely expensive.

I can't believe how expensive college is now.
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[User Picture]From: runeenigma
2007-11-24 03:44 am (UTC)
::blink:: They'd do what? For what?

. . . never. Even though my vote doesn't count for anything where I live, because I'm in such an underwhelming minority, I still want to try.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 03:46 am (UTC)
*nod* It's messed up.
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From: wizzywig_ale
2007-11-24 05:01 am (UTC)
I wouldn't give up my vote for anything. I hate liars.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 05:03 am (UTC)
Me too. It's a slippery slope.
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[User Picture]From: bigtyper
2007-11-24 09:01 am (UTC)
I definitely would give up four years of voting in order to not have any college tuition debt. The question is, what would it really cost? Does it mean other students don't get financial aid? Does it mean employees of the institution I attended would be paid less? I wouldn't want that. But yeah, I'd give up my vote, especially after standing in line for five hours to vote in '04 (in Ohio, no less) and have the state still end up red. Giving it up is basically like voting for lower college tuition or subsidies to help people pay for it.

There's no way I'd give my vote up forever, though.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 05:31 pm (UTC)
I think you hit the nail on the head though. Would your lower college tuition make life more difficult for others, if everyone did that, and someone dangerous got into office?

(again? *clears throat*)
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[User Picture]From: bigtyper
2007-11-24 09:54 am (UTC)
I definitely would give up four years of voting in order to not have any college tuition debt. The question is, what would it really cost? Does it mean other students don't get financial aid? Does it mean employees of the institution I attended would be paid less? I wouldn't want that. But yeah, I'd give up my vote, especially after standing in line for five hours to vote in '04 (in Ohio, no less) and have the state still end up red. Giving it up is basically like voting for lower college tuition or subsidies to help people pay for it.

There's no way I'd give my vote up forever, though.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 05:31 pm (UTC)
The idea of giving up my vote forever is sooo scary to me.
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[User Picture]From: vulcmoto
2007-11-24 09:42 pm (UTC)
The reason so many people don't bother to vote or are so willing to give up the right to vote is that the system is corrupt. In addition, big money in politics has made the average person's vote basically meaningless.

We have no voice. Only the powerful and wealthy do. It's not like an average person can run for office and expect to win. Only the rich can play the game.

I would gladly sell my right to vote in 2008. First, I don't like ANY candidate on either side. This goes for everything from president to senator to representative. Secondly, I live in a hopelessly red state. The fucking hillbillys here would vote for Bush again! So fuck it!
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-24 10:14 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I entirely agree, but I can see how you would feel so disenchanted with the system if you're in a geographical location that consistently votes against your beliegs.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-25 12:25 am (UTC)
Wow. Not me.
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[User Picture]From: mike_cupcake
2007-11-25 03:29 am (UTC)
shiooot. If I could get rid of my tuition for the next 3 years (40 thousand a year, well all right i do have a ton of scholarships so it's only 13,000 a year, but still), possibly my grad school(dunno how much), and pay off my father's debts as well...(around 20,000) then I'm not voting.

It's more important for me to keep my family out of hell and reasonably happy than to vote. And at any rate, there's always 2012.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2007-11-25 03:31 am (UTC)
*nod*
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