A car battery and some hookups sound nice to me.
Quite honestly, when you're talking about the molestation of children before the development of secondary sexual characteristics, I'd say an axe is in order, in a public demonstration of castration.
Lop off their bits and throw 'em a rag. If they bleed to death - oh well. If they manage to stem the flow of blood, well, at least they won't bother anyone anymore.
Should they kill a child in the process, then I think they ought to hand the survivors over to the kid's parents and let them decide how quickly to kill them. Could be years of hard labor atoning for his crime, could be with mom cutting his still-beating heart out in front of his eyes. Either way works for me.
On the other hand, I think entrapment is wrong. I don't think it's justice to prosecute people for what they think or want or for what they think they want. I think they should spend more effort and money on catching the people that are selling off these kids than the diseased people that want to have sex with them. Entrapment seems more than just unjust, I just don't think it's very effective.
That being said, I also think sending 19 year olds to prison for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends/boyfriends is ridiculous and interferes with the prosecution of real predators.
I agree entirely on the castration front, etc.
I think entrapment for prostitution, etc is wrong.. unless it's a situation like this. I'm totally cool with the cops catching this mofo. If it's to save a child from being hurt, then by all means, entrap away I say.
But I deem a child as 13 and under generally. Sometimes older depending on the situation, but I agree with the thing about the statutory rape laws. That's bull when they're that close in age. It should be on a case to case basis.
Yep, 13 is about when those pesky secondary sexual characteristics pop up.
Well, it's not JUST that I think entrapment is unfair, I just think it's ineffective. Except for on the street molestors, I think as far as the internet is concerned they need to focus on the assholes that are PROVIDING it, not just those who are going for the bait. I think it would save more kids. Who knows how many of these assholes wouldn't have even thought of indulging this sickness unless it was offered? I can just sit here, an overweight, middle-aged mother of two and I get child porn spam. (By the way, you can report it to http://www.asacp.org
, which is what I normally do.)
I think they should spend more efforts finding the distributors. If a perv is a perv, and deals with it and behaves himself, gets counseling, whatever, I have no real issue except pity. But I think that if they want to STOP this, and really protect kids, they need to go after the slave traders and pornographers. This method is just sloppy and I don't think it helps the most kids for the effort. Instead of entrapping these sick perverts, they ought to be entrapping the dealers.
And yes, I think the consenting statuatory thing really just clogs up the system and wastes time, money and effort. We spend all these resources tracking "predators" just because there's a few years difference between them and their girl/boy friend.
For making those points, with which I agree. :)
Thank you for the link for reporting it. I've seen it too, and I report it to tosspam thru aol, but I'd much rather report it there.
I agree they should try and find the distributors too, absolutely, though I like this kind of entrament. Maybe that's wrong, but someone who intends to hurt a child should be in jail.
it is a proven fact that our brains do not process and deal with things as an 'adult' until we are at least 18 years of age.
i think it should be across the board 18
period. a girl/boy who thinks and acts 'more mature than her/his age' still deserves the same protection.
i moved out of my house when i was 13. i was very mature but i was no where near ready to be in a relationship with an adult male, not even close.
No one is suggesting that grownups or even older teenagers having sex with 13 year olds is a good idea. Personally I think 13 year olds shouldn't be having sex with ANYONE (except themselves, maybe).
But it's ridiculous to criminalize an 18 year old high school senior for having a relationship with a 16 year old sophmore - they're both just kids as far as I'm concerned. What are young couple supposed to do when one of them turns 18? Break up?
We're talking about high school teens in relationships with other older teens here. Not middle school kids. And not teenagers being preyed on by wiley 30 year olds, either. :)
I understand and in a perfect world that would work.
Unfortunately the world isn't perfect and there has to be a guideline in the laws because there are some people out there who cannot keep their hands off kids.
I know of a case where a 19 year old was prosecuted with rape because his girlfriend was 4 days shy of 18 when they had sex.
It is horrible and wrong I know. I think the guy should have gotten community service and no record, if anything at all, but a lot of people in our world aren't advanced enough to have a case by case system. Nor would a case by case system always benefit the less fortunate. Sadly, it would make even more loop holes for wealthy or well connected people to get away with things.
I think it is awful that someone who smokes pot gets the same treatment in the court systems as someone who sells cocaine, but many would disagree with me. So until we can all learn to get along better and respect each others' views, as well as stop letting wealth ad status determine who gets justice, solid guidelines are the only way I can see.
If the sex was consensual, the guy shouldn't have gotten ANYTHING AT ALL! There are plenty of places where there ARE adjustable scales like that - and don't have laws against consensual sex between young people between the ages of 16 and 24. The UK sets age of consent at 16 and that seems to work pretty well, too.
The problem is, making an 18 or 19 year old into a sex offender interferes with the system and resources used to find REAL sex offenders and dangerous rapists. It's not just unfair and unjust, it detracks and derails from the real purpose which is protecting children.
For every prison cell holding some poor college boy that continued to date his 17 year old sweetheart is a prison cell NOT holding someone who is a real actual danger.
It's just ridiculous to criminalize young people for doing what comes naturally to them (even if it's unwise or impetuous, but that's a bit of what being young is about). It certainly doesn't help them to put them in jail and hang a label that will affect their rest of their lives. And it certainly doesn't help us protect children any better.
But then you have the whole aspect of someone who has, clinically, the mental capacity of a child in an adult body (downs syndrome, autism etc). How do we go about saying who they can and cannot sleep with?
I wish the world was civil enough to have a policy of "if everyone is consenting and no one is killing kittens" it's all good and if the world was, I would agree with you totally but, sadly,as I said there are too many people who would abuse the system.
I think we need more sex ed in the schools, more access to birth control and to make what comes naturally less taboo but that won't happen for a while for the reasons I stated above.
I think we need to stop criminalizing young adults for having sex with each other and spend the time, money and effort hunting down the perverts.
I live in Florida and this is sore point for me. They let that bastard Couey out of jail (overcrowding) and he went and killed a little girl after raping her, then they turned around and charged some poor 16 year old boy with distributing child pornography because he sent a naked picture of himself to his girlfriend. What's the sense in that?
There is none. And there's no reason we have to stand for it. What's the point in handing out leaflets and condoms if it's illegal for them to have sex?
I just don't agree with the "18" cut and dried. It would lead to big waste of time, money and effort to enforce and wouldn't really protect anyone who needs the protection.
Soo many guys I know would be in jail. LOL. I was a virgin until 18, but not if you count what Clinton was impeached for etc. hahaha. ;)
I wish it could be case to case but I know it can't because that can be subject to a lot of abuse. I'm kind of glad that the law will generally turn a blind eye when i's a 16 year old girl and 19 year old guy or whatever. Unless the parents go crazy about it.. then they have to get involved.