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Happy Easter to all those who celebrate it. Happy cheap eggs day for the rest of you. :) [Apr. 8th, 2007|10:23 am]
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Capital punishment is our society’s recognition of the sanctity of human life. - Orrin Hatch, Republican senator from Utah, explaining his support of the death penalty.

*tilts head*

I wonder how that works out. Huh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_JG1RyQgM

Reeves and Mortimer: Vic's Jacket -- British humour kicks my ass. I laughed SO hard.
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[User Picture]From: smadaf
2007-04-09 03:20 pm (UTC)
Well, I have no gripe against you; and I've already shared my view on the issues of abortion and capital punishment.

BUT ...

You simultaneously say that, by saying "pro-life", you are NOT "referring to the anti-abortion movement", AND say that "being pro-life" means "Claiming to have sanctity for ALL human life".  So, you remove from the term "pro-life" the definition that most users of the term actually give it, and then you not only inject your own definition into the term but even attribute that definition of the term to those who are doing the "Claiming".

So, if we are to get into the broader topic of what words CAN mean, instead of what they are most often understood to mean by the culture at large:

I like tomatoes.  So I am pro-tomatoes.  Ah, but wait:  I don't like raw tomatoes.  Does this now mean I am anti-tomatoes?  Am I still pro-tomatoes?  We could say I am pro–cooked tomatoes.  We could shorten that to saying that I am pro-tomatoes.  We could say that I am anti–raw tomatoes.  We could shorten that to saying that I am anti-tomatoes.

So what do we have with "pro-life"?

1.  Being for life.  There isn't qualification to say whether this means all life, some life, 'innocent' life, 'guilty' life, eternal life, life that ends naturally, life that is killed off after a certain number of years, all human life, all life of all species, &c.

2.  "the anti-abortion movement".  Being against certain kinds of induced abortion, the commonest meaning of the term among those who use it in the U.S.

3.  "Claiming to have sanctity for ALL human life".

So we have many categories of belief that overlap in certain persons and don't overlap in others: the "I am pro-life" belief; the "I am against all abortion" belief; the "I am against some/much abortion" belief; the "I believe all human life is sacrosanct" belief; the "I believe in not shooting the head off the person who looks extremely likely to press a button, two seconds from now, that would detonate a bomb that would kill 2,000 persons, because then I would certainly be killing that person, while I am not certain about what that person would do [or] because I am against my own killing of someone else [or] whatever" belief; the "I believe in allowing people to live until they have killed someone else" belief; &c., &c., &c.

I just found it curious that you (1) took a word that, on its face, is without qualification in terms of which categories of life it supports and which ones it doesn't support, (2) specifically disregarded the meaning that most people give it (being against most induced abortion of human embryos/fetuses/babies), and then (3) specifically gave it your own meaning (considering "ALL human life" sacrosanct).

(See my next comment, where I continue this.)
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