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Whatcha wearing for Halloween? [Oct. 31st, 2006|08:20 am]
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[mood |amusedamused]
[music |Mack the Knife]

There once was an old man who was loved by everyone in the town where
he lived. When he died, they buried him at a scenic location along a
river. A few days later there was a great rain storm and the river
flood coffin was carried along the river in to the town. The casket
flowed down the street past the supermarket and the school all the
way into the pharmacy. It slid right in to the pharmacy and onto the
counter. The lid popped open and the old man sat straight up and
asked the pharmacist - "Do you have anything to stop this coffin? "

(And on a not so fun note... I just went through FOUR links of Youtube's I had saved that were removed for violation of terms of service or what not. Dangit. :( I'm changing my opinion on the Youtube Acquisition. Boo.)

Speaking of unfriendly acquisitions...



http://youtube.com/watch?v=AwVatoUfty8

That's Hitler... rapping. It's funny/disturbing/bizarre... Quite strange. Interested in your opinions. -- Probably nsfw.. cause it's arguably the most evil man of the past century. Though it is Halloween... I dunno. just wanting to be careful. ;)

Be safe.

Check your candy. Check your kids candy.

Don't go into strangers houses unless it's guaranteed amazing action... ;)

You know the drill.
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Comments:
From: armedpacifist
2006-10-31 04:35 pm (UTC)
That video is from the comedy troupe, The Whitest Kids You Know, they are incredibly hilarious. This is comedy...

If you want to compare evilness, then please include the likes of Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kings of Saudi Arabia, Mao Tse Tung, Saddam Hussein, Franco, Batista and Brezhnev before concluding the most evil competition.

We pass off Hitlers behaviour as being "crazy" an "evil man" or a "monster" and we are therefore able to wash our hands of the whole thing, I mean hey we're not crazy evil monsters right? But the truth is Hitler was a normal guy and we can't wash our hands of what normal people are capable of doing in situations of absolute power.

One only has to look at the experiment of Milgram in 1974 to get a first hand account of this disturbing look at what normal human beings are capable of.

http://www.cultsock.ndirect.co.uk/MUHome/cshtml/socinf/obed.html

I think it should be very clear now that we cannot brush aside the behaviour of crazy evil butchers and think that under no circumstances we would be capable of the same thing.

Anyways, I thought the video was funny and I have seen it before.
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From: armedpacifist
2006-10-31 04:45 pm (UTC)
oh yeah costume

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-11-01 06:43 pm (UTC)
Nice costume by the by. ;)
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[User Picture]From: lynphoenyx
2006-10-31 06:40 pm (UTC)
It's been awhile since I've hread about that experiment. We had intense arguments about it in class. We wanted to know how diverse his test subjects were and such.
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From: skittish_derby
2006-10-31 06:52 pm (UTC)
he was disturbed though.. psychologically damaged. im not trying to wash my hands of him, and i know that i am just as capable of doing what some of the nazis did. but HITLER himself put himself into power, no one ordered him to do what he did and he believed what he was doing was right. he did it himself.

ive been in psych classes, ive learned about obedience and social influence, but dear god, hitler's IDEALS were all out of wack, he was deranged.

the blood of all those people are on his hands, and all because he didn't like their ART. all because he had an old view of what art should be and the modern artists of the time weren't doing that so he couldn't pass art school.

good point about labeling people evil... but the same argument would work way better if we were calling the nazis evil.

<3
me
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[User Picture]From: booniecat
2006-11-01 02:27 am (UTC)
Eh, it was not overnight that he went from normal-guy-vote-for-me to insanacrazy-dictator. It was gradual, and the ideas and values he put out were always only one little step more, and people have a hard time recognizing when things like that cross the line between normal and not normal. We studied Hitler in psych too, and I always found that the "Hitler went all crazy because of art" reasoning was ill concieved and made little sence. Too simplistic for starters, and there were many many other signs and reasons behind what he did. Hilter was a very smart man...not humane, no sence of value for human life, but very smart, driven and his rise to power and the things he did were more than just the chance creation of an insane pissed off artist. I mean, he never even cut off his ear! ha ha, just kidding on that last part :) Anyhow, just my two pennies...
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From: skittish_derby
2006-11-01 04:23 am (UTC)
well, this may be true, but the previous argument doesn't make any sense even with this peice of info. there might have been a lot that went into his histeria, but we can't blame those things, it was HIS choice, he did it himself... no one ordered him to take a dive off the deep end. the example about milgrim and the experiments were about how normal people respond to authority, someone told them to do this, to be this way, to shock those people.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-11-01 04:45 am (UTC)
Smart, and Driven and Powerful, certainly.

But there was definitely insanity intermingled with those.

And a deep darkness.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-11-01 04:27 am (UTC)
Precisely.

If one had to limit oneself to naming the most evil man in the past century though, I think most people would agree he's at the top of the list.
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[User Picture]From: booniecat
2006-11-01 02:31 am (UTC)
Evil, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Looking back at history, I am sure there are countless instances we could site that we would be appalled at, but were completely normal at the time. Or seemed normal, anyhow. Even the most well-meaning actions could lead to horrid events (Spanish Inquisition, anyone?). As the social atmosphere changes, or as more societies are drawn in, the definition of "evil" and "wrong" and "crazy" changes. ANyhow, long post longer, I agree with ya, and great comment.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-11-01 04:17 am (UTC)
Umm.. notice how the first part of my description for the video was Funny?

And believe it or not, I do know a thing or two about history. I feel that what Hitler did overall and the breadth of what Hitler did in the short amount of time he had to accomplish his atrocities was the most terrible of any of those you mentioned.

I believe that he was evil. I believe that every one of us has the potential for evil, and his was magnified by power, and those who had honed their own cruel and wicked natures that surrounded him.

I'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make with your comment?

I mean... for Hitler being such a normal guy, are you more sympathetic to him then the other tyrants you mentioned? Is he more likable because he's represented in a funny music video?
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From: armedpacifist
2006-11-01 05:52 am (UTC)
I'm not defending Hitler, although it was a common joke among that Allies he was our biggest ally during WW2 because of all the idiotic decisions he made.

I didn't mean to cause a heated debate, that was not my intention at all, I'm way more into peaceful discussion. That was my intention, I'm sorry if I offended anyone. :(

I just wanted to vent some thoughts and now that this has become more of a heated arguement, I don't think I'll try to continue it since I'm a pacifist and all. :)

I don't think we should be offended by Hitler 60 years later, if we can't joke about sensitive issues, they will never cease to be sensitive issues.

But again, this video was very funny.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-11-01 05:59 am (UTC)
Okay, cool. I misinterpreted the tone of your post, I'm afraid. I was really surprised because the way I read it wasn't how you've ever come accross in the past so we'll blame it on my very very long day. lol.

Sorry I got snappy, truly.

And I think there's definitely a place for satire and joking, but I really do think one needs to be respectful of victims too. There's a fine fine line and all of that jazz.

Not that there's many direct victims of WWII and specifically the Holocaust left. :(
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