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Ooh, controversy! [Oct. 26th, 2006|12:11 am]
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Every week, an average of 88 children are expelled from American schools for bringing a gun to class. Nearly one in three American households with children have a gun in them. In a study of 37 school shooting incidents between 1974 and 2000, two thirds of the students involved had taken their guns from their own home or that of a relative. Death rate from guns in the US is by far the highest in the developed world. Of the 639 million small arms worldwide, nearly 200 million are in the homes of Americans.

Have you ever owned a gun?

What things that weren't allowed at your school did you sneak in? (Cellphones, drugs, weapons, booze, kittens... I don't know, you tell me... ;) )

And... yeah...


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[User Picture]From: maudelynn
2006-10-26 05:09 am (UTC)
i am homeschooling my kids for sure because i dont
want them exposed to kittens
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:25 pm (UTC)
LOL. I love you. :)
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[User Picture]From: duckfast
2006-10-26 05:33 am (UTC)
sweet jesus...
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:26 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: sly_cult_race
2006-10-26 05:55 am (UTC)
....Thats crazy!!

Lots was banned at our school. But everyone used to go to the big park beside the grounds and smoke pot anyway. With the Drama teachers as well.

We put some Gnomes in this little mini garden area once, but they got removed :(
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[User Picture]From: katrina_splat
2006-10-26 07:00 am (UTC)
.....luce? really??? lol!!
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[User Picture]From: megthra
2006-10-26 06:03 am (UTC)
That (those statistics) made me frowny-face.

I have never owned a gun. No one in my family has ever owned a gun, with the exception of my grandfather, but he was in the navy.

hmmm... I think I once brought my hamster to school on a half day. T'was fun! No pets were allowed, ever, not even like a class mouse or anything. It was a depressing school.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:30 pm (UTC)
Makes me frowny too.

Hehe. A banned hampster.
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From: wupperware
2006-10-26 06:09 am (UTC)
i brought my cell phone into high school on numerous occasions (i left it in my locker. i'm such a badass.). there was no service there anyway, and no one would have a need to call me (considering pretty much the only person i use my phone to talk to NOW is my girlfriend, and last year we were in the same school so talking to her during school was never a problem)

my physics teacher brought his cat in to school one day last year as well. and his baby daughter on a couple of occasions.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:35 pm (UTC)
lol. Bad ass cellphone locker action. I love it!

--- and awwww to both!
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From: skittish_derby
2006-10-26 06:25 am (UTC)
im not surprised. once in my econ class, my teacher broght a clip of the movie fight club, the part where tyler durden is pouring the acid onto the narrator's skin, and he talks about how you have to lose everything and feel pain to know what anything good feels like... or something like that... and then the teacher brought out a dog training collar and let us see how much pain we could tolerate.

it was exciting. and he didn't get in trouble.

and then he brought a clip of spongebob squarepants, and they suspended him for awhile. apparently spongebob had a little gay controversy at the time.

once, my class had this brilliant idea to all wear hats one day, but no one did.

once, my photo teacher allowed students to watch the infamous beheading. the one that was "on all the news" a few years ago. and she almost got fired even though she didn't SHOW it...

about guns, i don't see where they have their place in this country. the only thing i see them doing is killing, there is the sport of hunting which is a reasonable sport, but mainstream, it isn't used to protect the home, bringing something so deadly into the household couldn't do that.

and i wouldn't reccomend homeschooling. i was homeschooled and perhaps it was my mother, but it took years to learn social skills that i missed out on in my prime elementary years.

i wrote you a novel.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:42 pm (UTC)

It was okay for your teacher to give you guys electric shock pain stuff, but nto let you watch spongebob because there was a "gay controversy"?! What the hell!?! LOL!!!!

Ad I'm the same way, I don't like guns. I don't see why they're necessary, but to each their own.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-26 10:47 pm (UTC)
What was your belt buckle of?

I would hope that if they were confiscating pagan stuff they were confiscating Christian or Jewish or what not too.

I hate double standards.

Either allow relgiion or don't, but if you're allowing religions allow all religions.
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[User Picture]From: mornblade
2006-10-26 06:44 am (UTC)
The statistics there are all well and good, but they don't tell the whole story. I first fired a gun before I was ten. It was a musket and it left a bruise on my shoulder for a couple of weeks. But after that first time, I knew that a firearm was not a toy and it was to be respected. Over the years I learned about the proper care and use of firearms.

I had a tough time in school and didn't have many friends. I had plenty of enemies though. Many times I thought how wonderful life would be if those people were no longer on this earth. But never once did I entertain the idea of bringing a gun to school. Never. Why? Because I had known that firearms were not a game.

Do I own a gun? Yes. Do I hope to use it for anything other than target practice? No. Will I use it if my life, home, or family are at risk. Hell yeah.

Coincidentally. The 40-some states that have right-to-carry laws have about 2/3 less violent crime than the states that don't allow a person to carry a weapon on them.

What does all this mean? Education is the answer.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:40 am (UTC)
What don't the statistics tell? It's focusing on gun violence. It's pretty clear that we have the highest rate for it, but for as many kids getting into their parents guns, there's thousands that aren't. I think that's just common sense. I don't see how these facts omitted anything?

And really? I didn't realize there was that much of a discrepancy. Do you have a link on that? I'd love to read further.

Consequently though, counties for instance in Europe that have laws prohibiting gun ownership have a much lower violence andcrime rate. *shrug* It goes both ways.
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[User Picture]From: deadahead
2006-10-26 09:34 am (UTC)
Never owned a gun

Don't Need one

I know Kare-A-Tay

I didnt really sneak anything in

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:41 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: snapes_mistress
2006-10-26 10:29 am (UTC)
I've never owned a gun, don't think I've ever even held one. My mom has a vintage pistol though, and knows how to use it. But she's kind of a redneck. ;)

I honestly wouldn't care if guns were banned in the States. I feel safer here in England where no one has guns. Although that might be stupid of me. They have a lot of knife-violence here, and I've been told to be careful at night. But I always think, "Why, I'm not afraid of a little knife, I'm from the States where everyone has guns." Ha ha. I know that is really stupid of me, but after living my whole life in a gun-crazy country, the idea of knife crime seems a little silly to me. I better be careful or I'm gonna get myself stabbed.

The only thing I ever smuggled into school was Midol and sinus medicine. You were supposed to take any and all medication to the nurse to be distributed. But come on... what teenage girl wants to announce to the school nurse that she's on the rag? :P

There were several cases of guys in my high school having their cars (or more correctly, trucks) searched and being in trouble b/c they had guns in them. But I went to high school in the mountains of South Carolina, surrounded by woods and farmland. They were just country boys who liked to hunt. They usually just forgot to take their hunting rifles out of the truck before school or something.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:42 am (UTC)
I really prefer England's laws on this issue. Not gonna get to detailed, but I'd feel much safer if I lived in England.
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[User Picture]From: lottieloo
2006-10-26 11:53 am (UTC)
Thats scary stuff!

We weren't allowed walkie talkies. I snuck mine in so I could chat to my friends in other classes. That was before the days of mobile phones and texting. I feel old :(
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From: tommiie
2006-10-26 11:58 am (UTC)
I once got a pair of kinky pink furry handcuffs taken off me in East Midlands Airport.

I am now indefinately banned from East Midlands Airport.

Does that count?
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From: margann
2006-10-26 01:23 pm (UTC)
those statistics really don't surprise me. sadly. we own a gun but it's in a glass case and not to be used. it's an antique sniper rifle from world war two. i would never buy a gun just for the sake of 'protection'. i've seen to many bad things happen to people as a result. just a year ago, a friend of mine bought himself a pistol because he had a legitimate fear of a group of skinheads around here who had almost stabbed him to death. we were sitting in his basement drinking and the ass started cleaning it without having taken out the bullets. i don't think i have to tell you what happened next. til he died i kind of had a meh attitude about guns, but after i started really reading about american gun control laws and death rates and now i realize how fucked up the situation really is.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:50 am (UTC)

Exactly. Too many terrible things like that happen all the time, and kids get ahold of them, and I just am not going to risk that, no matter how paranoid I get about intruders.
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From: margann
2006-10-26 01:26 pm (UTC)
oh, and for an answer to the what did you sneak in question:

in seventh grade i had a tree frog that i brought in in a cigar box and left in my locker. actually one of my teachers wanted to see it, so it wasn't really sneaking, but i did end up getting sent home by the principal.

and freshman year of college i can't remember a day i didn't walk into class with a joint or five in my pocket to smoke on the walk home
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:51 am (UTC)


I can honeslty say with the exception of like vicodin when I had my wisdom teeth out I never brought anything considered as drugs to school.

A friend brought vodka on a field trip once and I embibed... Does that count?
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[User Picture]From: theprimrosepath
2006-10-26 01:59 pm (UTC)
Haven't ever owned a gun myself, but my family owned several shotguns when I was little. And a handgun, I think, though I never saw - but I totally would have if they hadn't kept the key to gun rack hidden. I was fascinated by those, I completely understand the lure of guns to kids. You don't necessarily want to use them to kill thing, or even understand that they can kill things..they're just neat, and you see 'em in Westerns, who wouldn't want to play with one? :)

I snuck in one of those little electronic pet thigns when I was in highschool. Beyond that, I was the good child. Funny that you mentions kittens, though; at a school camping retreeat, a friend and I had a private room at the back of the lodge near the backdoor that no one used. We found a kitten (probably belong to the camp owners) an snuck itto our room at night. We named it claudia. :)
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2006-10-27 03:53 am (UTC)
I think if you're going to have guns in the home it is necessary to have a gun cabinet like that.

-- And aww! I miss thsoe!
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