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Shocking, I find. What do you guys think? [Dec. 6th, 2005|08:56 pm]
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http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you of another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.


Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.

On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.

"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."

Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.

Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.

"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."

Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."

A Taste for Hate

Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.

One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."

Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."

Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.

"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."

A Place to Call Home

Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.

Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.

The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.

After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.

Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.

But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-06 08:58 pm (UTC)
I think that the message might have been mixed here. I think what they probably said is that he killed 30-million total.. which is true, when you add in the Polish, the Russian, and American troops that died to the astonishing twelve million civillians murdered because of their religion, race, sexual orientation, etc.
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:03 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, definately, when I refer to how many hitler killed I usually just mean those exterminated in the Concetration Camps. The troops are just pawns for millitary leaders, war casualties, politics on the battlefield.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
Well, a lot of Polish citizens were killed that aren't included in the 12 million mark.
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:35 pm (UTC)
I was going to comment on that very thing but the page expired and I lost what I typed.

Civilians are also counted among the casulties. I wouldn't recomend opening that door because we the U.S. killed a lot of civilians when we dripped the two A-Bombs.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-06 09:38 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm happy to open that door. What happened in Hiroshoma and Nagasaki was horrific. As were the Japanese Prisoner of War camps here in the states. Don't think for a moment I consider us a blameless warrior against the original "axis of evil".
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:47 pm (UTC)
SO what exactly are you in favor of? No matter what the subject you constantly seem to try to make me out to be the bad guy. You are always at odds with me, it's very annoying and very rude, I would think with your views you would be a bit more compassionate and tolerant with people.
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[User Picture]From: maggiedacatt
2005-12-06 10:30 pm (UTC)
What are you talking about? I see no indication that you are "the bad guy" in this thread.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-07 09:21 am (UTC)
Good. Glad I'm not going insane. :)
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-07 09:10 am (UTC)
*blink* Huh? What in the world are you talking about? I think you may have misunderstood what I said, my friend.
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[User Picture]From: lunar_rainbow
2005-12-06 09:28 pm (UTC)
The troops are just pawns for millitary leaders, war casualties, politics on the battlefield.

I'm not sure that I understand your point. Any time there is war there are innocent lives lost, not just troops and concentration camp victims. Hitler made a point of bombing cities full of civilians, a terror tactic. How many of the troops wanted to be there and fight a war in the first place? In Russia and Germany, if you didn't fight, they shot you dead.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2005-12-06 09:32 pm (UTC)
This is also a very good point. It wasn't exactly a choice. Yes, it seems somewhat more "acceptable" for soldiers to die then citizens, but people are people, and souls are souls. It's always tragic.
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:41 pm (UTC)
It is always tragic but its still more acceptable than civilians. They are soldiers, that is what they do, they kill, and they die.
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:40 pm (UTC)
Troops are no longer civilians, they now act on behalf of the government. A different set of rules apply to them. For tens of thousands of years soldiers were shot dead if they didn't fight, we the U.S. also used that tactic, and probably still do. But for just as long as that had been going on, there has always been plenty of warriors that fight voluntarily.
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[User Picture]From: lunar_rainbow
2005-12-06 09:51 pm (UTC)
This statement does not make it any better for a soldier who was forced to fight against his/her will, was killed in battle and left behind a family, friends, children, etc. It does not make it any better for the family, friends, children, either.
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[User Picture]From: theslaughtered
2005-12-06 09:54 pm (UTC)
I never said it made it better, I just said thats the way it is.
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