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I have a few words for the president of IBM. [Jan. 25th, 2008|09:33 am]
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IBM had a unique response to employee complaints that they were not being compensated for overtime... they cut their salaries. IBM had originally applied for, and received, an exemption from having to pay overtime to thousands of their employees. The employees were upset and started a lawsuit. IBM responded by dropping the exemption, then cutting the salaries of their employees by 15% to compensate for the overtime they now have to pay. As a result, the employees now must work overtime to earn the same salary they previously earned in a regular work week. Worse yet, the cut also applies to employees who never worked overtime at all. -- http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/24/049246&from=rss

So yeah. who wants to work for IBM? Not me!! I think I'd be more likely to do small things to sabotage a company that did this to me. I mean, seriously.. that's just obnoxious. Especially with the economy. *wince* Nasty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhXNDUXhSU4

News anchors reflecting on the assassination of JFK. No Zapruder film close ups, I promise, but you do see Lee Harvey Oswald shot.

So, I've always wanted to know your opinions on the Kennedy assassinaton. Conspiracy? Why yea, or nay?
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[User Picture]From: phekkin_nej
2008-01-25 04:15 pm (UTC)
Hopefully my company doesnt think to do anything as stupid as IBM
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 04:17 pm (UTC)
Right? Man, what a nightmare!!
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[User Picture]From: funkywombat
2008-01-25 04:21 pm (UTC)
Not allowed to cut wages of pee-employed employees here. It's called employment law. ;
:P
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 04:22 pm (UTC)
It sounds mighty illegal, doesn't it?
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[User Picture]From: marguerlucy
2008-01-25 04:35 pm (UTC)
Weird - one of my best friends works for IBM and we were just talking about this. Obviously, she is MAJORLY pissed.

I alas, dont know much about the JFK assassination to judge it a conspiracy or not. My mom had this huge bio on him that I want to read. I am all for conspiracy theories though. LOL real life is just too dull without them.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 04:37 pm (UTC)
Poor thing. :( I can't imagine how hard that must be for her, and everyone at the company. It is so completely unacceptable for a company to do that to their employees.

Agreed. ;)
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[User Picture]From: m_buggie
2008-01-25 04:50 pm (UTC)
It sounds to me like IBM is just begging to have someone go Office Space on them, if you know what I mean.

Also, I flat out refuse to believe that Oswald fired the final shot that killed Kennedy. I didn't believe it from the very first time I saw the footage when I was a kid. The physics of it just don't add up. So yeah, conspiracy.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 04:51 pm (UTC)
LOL, riiight!?! Seriously!!!

I vote conspiracy too.
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[User Picture]From: insane_hope
2008-01-25 05:30 pm (UTC)
My father is a conspiracy nut in his spare time, aliens, nostradomus, the bible code, and yes JFK. from the times I've talked to him about this I'd agree it had to be multiple people, just from angles alone.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 08:01 pm (UTC)
I agree.

What are his other conspiracies?
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 08:06 pm (UTC)
You bring up a lot of REALLY interesting points. It's definitely a coverup. I feel so bad for Bobby. Do you think he realized that he was the catalyst?
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[User Picture]From: skittish_derby
2008-01-25 05:48 pm (UTC)
(warning: i didn't watch the video, so i don't know how much this relates)

my boyfriend, zac, thinks that the mob killed lee harvey oswald, he says it is too conspicuous that he was killed when he was the most wanted man in the country.

i don't know about the mob, i don't think that the JFK assasination was a conspiracy, i've watched too many history channel shows... and penn and teller's show 'bullshit.' and mythbusters... apparently, those who believe the 'magic bullet' idea have really drawn the diagram incorrectly, and JFK's head would naturally fall backward... so... one shooter... one insane shooter.

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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 08:09 pm (UTC)
I think the mob was part of it. I think a lot of the history shows are being told to present it that way. I don't know.
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[User Picture]From: skittish_derby
2008-01-25 05:54 pm (UTC)
AND. it would be entirely possible for LHO to shoot as many shots in the time allotted. he was a trained marine. penn shot three shots (without aiming, mind you) in real time with plenty of time left over.

conspiracy theorists annoy me to no end...
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[User Picture]From: smadaf
2008-01-25 06:01 pm (UTC)
My ideas about his assassination have covered a wide field, since I first heard about it 2nd grade.  I'm not a constant student of it, but every so often do read whole books and watch whole documentaries on it.

It's O.K. with me if there are all sorts of ideas about it.  (These days, I happen to think Lee Harvey Oswald did get bullets into Pres. Kennedy and Gov. Connelly, and wasn't himself part of a conspiracy, although he may not have been the only one shooting there and then.  But I don't have a gripe against persons' having other ideas about what happened.)

My one serious problem is with an oft repeated logical fallacy that too many persons love to spout off about this event.  They basically say "If you have two shooters, then, by definition, you have a conspiracy."  (For some reason, "by definition" is a favorite phrase among them.)

No.  A conspiracy would be if two persons conspired to do this.  If you happened to watch the same TV show last night that I was watching at the same time, does it mean you and I necessarily conspired to do it?  How do I know you even watch TV?

For some reason, the same persons who rightly acknowledge that many different figures might have liked to kill Pres. Kennedy seem unable to fathom the idea that two or more persons might try to kill him at the same time and place without getting together to make a group project of it.

What's the likelihood of that?  I don't know.  But it's possible—and the definition of conspiracy is not two persons merely trying to do the same thing.


I wonder whether any nuns still wear the headdresses shown in the video you linked to. :)
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[User Picture]From: jehannamama
2008-01-25 07:47 pm (UTC)
Yikes! How awful!That is a terrible thing...

How's you? And wee Random?
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 09:30 pm (UTC)
Right?

And I'm hanging in here. :) Had a good visit with the Doctor today. They're checking for bladder cancer, so that'll be interesting.
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From: christinaathena
2008-01-25 08:50 pm (UTC)
Lee Harvey Oswald was a time-traveller from the 22nd century.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 09:34 pm (UTC)
Oooh, fascinating. ;) Was that what he was doing in Russia for all that time?
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[User Picture]From: zibacco
2008-01-25 08:51 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised somebody didn't shoot that IBM guy. At the very least they should have organized into a union. You can't use collective punishment against a union.

And I firmly believe in the magic bullet theory. Oswald was totally alone all of his incredibly obvious ties to the mafia, the KGB and the Cuban government were all just coincidences.

Totally different but semi-related: The worst haircut I ever got in my life happened right after I moved out here to LA. I went in and sat down and we had the usual chit-chat. Then the lady cutting my hair asked where I was from, so I told her Dallas. She kind of paused and said in a pissed off tone, "that's where they killed Kennedy, isn't it" and started chopping and hacking my hair to death. Had to wear a hat for weeks.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 09:35 pm (UTC)
Isn't it horrific? I'm shocked that it's even allowed to happen. It seems so terribly illegal.

Aww. I'm sorry that your hair got destroyed. All the same, I bet that your head still looked nicer then Kennedy's...
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[User Picture]From: rombino
2008-01-25 09:05 pm (UTC)
man, IBM, thats brootal.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 09:36 pm (UTC)
Seriously. :(
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From: christinaathena
2008-01-25 09:12 pm (UTC)
Let's suppose for the sake of argument that the conspiracy theorists are correct, and the arguments about angles are valid.

Why would the alleged conspirators be so incompetent as to leave such obvious evidence of their actions, and yet be super-humanly competent as to keep anyone involved from blabbing?
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-25 09:38 pm (UTC)
I think they planned that most people would blame Oswald. And I think they still do, for the majority, and they couldn't have planned the glaring errors with the warren comission. People in this country have a bad habit of believing whatever it is that the government tells them. Maybe Bush has changed that. I hope so.
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From: shineyredrhinos
2008-01-26 11:11 am (UTC)
I'm all for a good conspiracy theory whether it makes sense or not. I believe ( or want to believe ) them all.

Incidentally, Lee Harvey Oswald' old residence in New Orleans is on part of the famous places tour my family gives to visiting friends and family.
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[User Picture]From: randomposting
2008-01-26 07:07 pm (UTC)
Ooh, interesting! is it open for people to look at? Or is it now a privately owned residence by someone else?
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