I suspect this is non-news. I believe that under the Berne convention, there is a statuette of limitations for copyright that is under 5000 years or however old the pyramids are.
I was thinking that too! I didn't know what the statute was, but it seems odd to me that it would be possible for these to be copyrighted.
I didn't know if because its Egypt if there were some form of other law that would support it.
I'm sure there is, within their own country. But it won't have any jurisdiction overseas unless supported by an international treaty.
The Berne Convention does not include buildings in its wording. Only 'Literary and Artistic Works'.
P.S It does say the right of copyright pretty much expires after 50 years, however. We all know that the pyramids weren't created in the '50s, so I suppose I'll go back on what I said below, it is pretty safe to say that the pyramids are out of copyright, if you were to consider them an 'artistic work'?
Edited at 2007-12-28 10:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah. There are lots of things wrong with this claim. The least of which is that Egypt isn't exactly a hotbed of rights to begin with.
Seems like they would be.
Pharaonic is totally my word for the day...
Edited at 2007-12-26 07:38 pm (UTC)
oh my - thats rather crazy, would the money really go to the preservation of the pyramids??
Probably not. Money like that usually goes to "administrative fees" in my experience. *rolls eyes*
i bet there'd be all sorts of random loopholes to that anyway. Like... people dont really reproduce historical sites to exact scale, so you could argue its not really a reproduction. haha. lame.
besides, isn't it a wonder of the world? you can't copyright a wonder of the world.
particularly when there are so many peer-to-peer illegal download programs for Historical Sites. Not to mention Carmen San Diego and her band of theives.
LOL! Carmen San Diego! Hardcore! I haven't thought of her in awhile. I want an icon of her!
I was going to say... an EXACT copy would be rather large and would probably never happen. That's a pretty big structure. Even they are talking a model to scale all the artist has to do is change the size of one brick or shorten one line... and it's no longer 100%.
Wouldn't it be cool if some were built to scale? I think that'd rock. haha.
But you're right. All it takes is one brick. ;)
LOL, it'd be kinda cool if they were to scale, wouldn't it? ;)
And random loopholes are my favorite.
I wonder how much things ae going to be jacked up in price now that they want to copyright everything. It'll trickle down somehow. I mean think of all the movies filmed at these locations, all the trips to egypt that will cost more, it's crazy. I really do hope a substantial sum actually goes to the preservation of these antiquities! But you're right, most likely they wont. Sad.
Seriously. One thing is that usually they pay a substantial fee to film on location anyway so hopefully that won't change. I wonder though if those that are filmed in a studio with a set that replicates exact artifacts.
speaking of your icon
did you see The Dark is Rising?
I feel like we talked about it, but i can't remember. I know I've told you to read the books, but i can't remember if you actually saw it. i wonder if its out on dvd yet...is it even out in theatres yet? it should have been, right?
I'M SO BORED AT WORK RANDOM!!! 9 more minutes........
oh damn, i keep replying in my "lj community" name. its Redhead Lizzie :)
Not yet. :( I've been trying to find it, but it's no where near me, and hasn't been for weeks. I keep thinking it'll come to the cheap theatre, but no dice so far.
I'm hoping that it'll be on dvd soon, I want to see it so bad!
And aww, I'm sorry you're bored, babe. *hugs* I'm watching the most recent season of 24, because I didn't get to see it when it aired. Man, it's intense!
IMO, this is a rather facetious law which gives the egyptian govt an assumed power to bring abouts law suits to those they don't like. of course they're not going to sue Luxor Hotel because its shaped like a pyramid. that is just gonna get right up america's arse, and egypt doesn't want that.
now, say iran or iraq or syria were to say, uh, make a pyramid shaped monument, egypt will scream blue-murder.
Madbard mentioned that there seems to be a statute against this based on international laws.. there needs to be a treaty of some sort for there to be anything enforced outside of their own country.
I'm pretty sure copyrighting is general is covered by various international treaties, or just by countries cooperating with each other, for example the American music industry prosecuting British or French or German music pirates.
I'm sure the same would occur for a building.
For a building thousands of years old? It seems like it would be out of copyright.
Works such as the Mona Lisa, The Starry Night, or any Picasso or Monet are copyrighted too, and anyone wanting to use them will have to pay huge royalties. What actually makes the pyramids different?
Interesting. I'm not sure. Madbard spoke about it above.
Also, since the people who made it are dead, who would have the legal rights to the pyramids? Normally things are copyrighted when the artiest are alive. Then the rights are passed down.
Randomposting. A pleasure to meet you. :)
This brings back memories of Dr. Hawass when he used to come on Coast To Coast Am with Art Bell. I really miss Art. George is doing a wonderful job, but as he'll tell you, nobody can come close to Art's style. Name a radio talk show host, and forgetting their subject matter for a minute (politics, sports, whatever) tell me one with the style and class that Art had.
Oh, so you know this cat?
Yeah. He was always talking about the Sphinx and the legends of the pyramids. The one I remember most was the secret room underneath the leg of the Sphinx. Art actually got to visit Egypt and was given a tour of the pyramids by Hawass.http://guardians.net/hawass/millennium1.htm
OOH! Thank you! That link is Awesome!!!
And then suddenly, a 5,000+ year old monument that just so happens to be a world wonder is not creative commons? Can people even copyright buildings? Egypt is not alone in harboring pyramid structures. There are smaller ancient monuments dotting that whole area, and you have the pyramid-like buildings left by the mayans on the other side of the ocean.
I wonder if they are really afraid of someone making a modern pyramid that will overshadow their Gizah ruins? I kind of doubt that will ever happen, since a direct replica wouldn't be good for much, other than to take up space. I think people would be more inclined to see the real thing in Gizah anyways, while it's still open.
Kind of makes me wonder what the world is coming to, when you have people trying to copyright and cash in on everything. :/
Yeah. :( I don't think anything will come of it, but I thought it was interesting enough to post.
THe hotel is not the only pyramid shaped building. There is a pyramid shaped funeral home/mausoleum in Davie, Fl.
Really? Have any pictures? That's awesome!
I don't have any pictures. I don't get down that way much.